Comments on: What is an Oztaku? http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/ Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:31:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Punktaku Blog» Blog Archive » What Is An Oztaku? http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-65238 Punktaku Blog» Blog Archive » What Is An Oztaku? Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:21:06 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-65238 [...] Response to NewGeekPhilosopher’s article “What Is An Oztaku?” [...] [...] Response to NewGeekPhilosopher’s article “What Is An Oztaku?” [...]

]]> By: Avi Bernshaw http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-64852 Avi Bernshaw Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:41:09 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-64852 That's cool. I just get really frustrated by how amazingly US-centric the internet is. I can't even say ethnocentric, in a case like this, because being an otaku is kinda the antithesis of ethnocentricity (unless you ARE Japanese). But yeah all is forgiven. If you want to check out the sort of work we actually produce,you're welcome to drop on by our forum sometime. That’s cool.

I just get really frustrated by how amazingly US-centric the internet is.
I can’t even say ethnocentric, in a case like this, because being an otaku is kinda the antithesis of ethnocentricity (unless you ARE Japanese).
But yeah all is forgiven.

If you want to check out the sort of work we actually produce,you’re welcome to drop on by our forum sometime.

]]> By: newgeekphilosopher http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-64755 newgeekphilosopher Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:40:43 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-64755 @Avi Bernshaw: Thank God, somebody actually redeemed the use of the word from my idiotic purposes. Now I have yet another thing to be miserable about, I guess the impact of several depressing instances in my life has gotten to my head. I am so sorry. I really am. But rather than killing myself over this, a followup post on my home blog would be a better solution for promoting your artistic cause which I for one would actually support by the way. :cry: @Avi Bernshaw: Thank God, somebody actually redeemed the use of the word from my idiotic purposes. Now I have yet another thing to be miserable about, I guess the impact of several depressing instances in my life has gotten to my head.

I am so sorry. I really am. But rather than killing myself over this, a followup post on my home blog would be a better solution for promoting your artistic cause which I for one would actually support by the way. :cry:

]]> By: Avi Bernshaw http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-64747 Avi Bernshaw Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:59:32 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-64747 Ummm, not to be picky or anything, but you didn't just make it up. Have you guys actually gone to http://www.oztaku.com? Or, I dunno, bothered to Google it? We've been around since 2003. We've got a community of over 400 artists Australia wide. We've got some stuff in Kyoto's manga museum, and we've been pretty much a driving force behind a good chunk of the acceptance of manga as a medium down under. kthxbye Ummm, not to be picky or anything, but you didn’t just make it up.
Have you guys actually gone to http://www.oztaku.com?
Or, I dunno, bothered to Google it?

We’ve been around since 2003.
We’ve got a community of over 400 artists Australia wide.
We’ve got some stuff in Kyoto’s manga museum, and we’ve been pretty much a driving force behind a good chunk of the acceptance of manga as a medium down under.

kthxbye

]]> By: blissmo http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-64491 blissmo Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:36:29 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-64491 I wouldn't consider myself an otaku at all, and heck, oztaku is a cute word :D I wouldn’t consider myself an otaku at all, and heck, oztaku is a cute word :D

]]> By: risu http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-64158 risu Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:56:28 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-64158 give the guy a break. oztaku is a cute word. regardless of what his connotations of it may be. britaku is cute too. wait, nigger is a cute word too. give the guy a break. oztaku is a cute word. regardless of what his connotations of it may be.
britaku is cute too.

wait, nigger is a cute word too.

]]> By: Kairu Ishimaru http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-64091 Kairu Ishimaru Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:13:45 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-64091 Wow I think I just saw an Ogiue pic. Well anyway, Oztaku eh? Well that does undefine me. Wow I think I just saw an Ogiue pic.
Well anyway, Oztaku eh? Well that does undefine me.

]]> By: newgeekphilosopher http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-63789 newgeekphilosopher Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:00:23 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-63789 @lelangir: Once again you have proven me wrong. 99% of revolutions fail even if they are well meaning, and the ones that succeed take YEARS to realistically end a lot of suffering. But could you blame me for trying to coin a fun word to try and solve a problem? Once again I fail at life. @Caitlin: I am so sorry. Now I feel miserable that I even tried to invent a fun word which ended up tearing us apart. In any case it would be better if we completely forgot that I bothered. I'm going to sulk in some shojo now. :( @lelangir: Once again you have proven me wrong. 99% of revolutions fail even if they are well meaning, and the ones that succeed take YEARS to realistically end a lot of suffering.

But could you blame me for trying to coin a fun word to try and solve a problem? Once again I fail at life.

@Caitlin: I am so sorry. Now I feel miserable that I even tried to invent a fun word which ended up tearing us apart. In any case it would be better if we completely forgot that I bothered. I’m going to sulk in some shojo now. :(

]]> By: Caitlin http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-63600 Caitlin Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:50:26 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-63600 If the only thing your term is emphasizing is a geographical separation, I put as much value into it as region coding on DVDs and video games. That is, absolutely none. If you want to start categorizing Australian anime fans as Oztaku, be my guest but I've been more of a fan of bringing people together than pushing them apart. If the only thing your term is emphasizing is a geographical separation, I put as much value into it as region coding on DVDs and video games. That is, absolutely none. If you want to start categorizing Australian anime fans as Oztaku, be my guest but I’ve been more of a fan of bringing people together than pushing them apart.

]]> By: lelangir http://yukan.dasaku.net/miscellaneous/random-rants/what-is-an-oztaku/comment-page-1/#comment-63354 lelangir Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:00:49 +0000 http://yukan.dasaku.net/?p=2809#comment-63354 You know, when we/you coin terms like these, it only opens up even more possibilities, sites and locations of ostracization and discrimination. By your intent, the otzaku is a "good thing" with "positive connotations," but those connotations are, just as easily as they were forged, usurped by trolls and opponents of your theory, thus turning the empty symbol "otzaku" into just some ridiculous anti-myth which only propagates the problem with cultural slurs than it does end them. It's like blacks, which in the 70's in the US turned the meaning of the word on its head: black power, black pride; brothers, soul brothers; brown is beautiful (recall your history with the native Australian aboriginal). Essentially, since you feel suppressed in some way by term otaku, you're avoiding this discrimination instead of challenging it: benefit of the few at the expense of the many - so where's our "pride" now? You know, when we/you coin terms like these, it only opens up even more possibilities, sites and locations of ostracization and discrimination. By your intent, the otzaku is a “good thing” with “positive connotations,” but those connotations are, just as easily as they were forged, usurped by trolls and opponents of your theory, thus turning the empty symbol “otzaku” into just some ridiculous anti-myth which only propagates the problem with cultural slurs than it does end them.

It’s like blacks, which in the 70’s in the US turned the meaning of the word on its head: black power, black pride; brothers, soul brothers; brown is beautiful (recall your history with the native Australian aboriginal).

Essentially, since you feel suppressed in some way by term otaku, you’re avoiding this discrimination instead of challenging it: benefit of the few at the expense of the many – so where’s our “pride” now?

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